Comments on: Why I didn’t play EVE at launch https://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/2014/03/why-i-didnt-play-eve-at-launch/ Journeys and Musings of an Ex-Hardcore Raider Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:23:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.2.17 By: flosch https://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/2014/03/why-i-didnt-play-eve-at-launch/#comment-26907 Wed, 12 Mar 2014 08:23:22 +0000 http://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/?p=3281#comment-26907 I really should get around to playing it a bit again. But I’m not sure what I want to do, and I’m always worried my choices might block other possibilities in the future. Like joining up with group A, then not being accepted in group B any more because I’m “tainted” and could be a spy. On the other hand, I’m very probably overly worried. F1 monkeys might be able to switch even between alliances.

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By: HarbingerZero https://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/2014/03/why-i-didnt-play-eve-at-launch/#comment-26906 Mon, 10 Mar 2014 19:21:30 +0000 http://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/?p=3281#comment-26906 I’m in for 90 days. But all I do is log in and change my skills and look at my pretty starship. Sorcery I say.

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By: flosch https://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/2014/03/why-i-didnt-play-eve-at-launch/#comment-26905 Mon, 10 Mar 2014 06:53:32 +0000 http://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/?p=3281#comment-26905 It is. One of them is why I’m still subscribed if I don’t really do anything meaningful in the game, and haven’t for more than half a year.

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By: flosch https://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/2014/03/why-i-didnt-play-eve-at-launch/#comment-26904 Mon, 10 Mar 2014 06:52:58 +0000 http://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/?p=3281#comment-26904 You have a good point there, for long-distance traveling. (EVE indeed has an “auto pilot” you can program with waypoints, and the ship will fly through systems and jump through gates to get there.)

The main problem is that, in my opinion, when it comes to fighting, that is, close-range piloting, EVE delegates control of the ship to something that isn’t more capable than the human player. All you can do is choose a target and “approach” or “orbit”, or click somewhere in space and let your ship fly in that direction (with the fundamental problem that choosing a 3-dimensional point to fly toward on a your screen’s 2-dimensional input field can lead to “interesting” results).

In a way, it’s as if EVE is the other way round from the standard MMO fighting: instead of controlling your character’s movement, but having an auto-attack (supplemented by hotkey attacks), EVE gives you full control over all your actions, except movement. I know that you like some sort of “automation” in your games, for the lack of a better word: stand and exchange hits, auto-attacks, etc. And I’m with you to a large extent. It’s just that with EVE, doing it the other way round always struck me as a strange decision.

Then again, the game would be unplayable (well, even less playable) during extra-large fights. Flying a ship during 10% time dilation already sucks, from all I heard, but I can’t imagine how bad it would be if you had to manually pilot it.

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By: bhagpuss https://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/2014/03/why-i-didnt-play-eve-at-launch/#comment-26903 Mon, 10 Mar 2014 00:12:31 +0000 http://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/?p=3281#comment-26903 That’s actually one of the first reasons I’ve seen for playing EVE. My main objection to SF video games is that they bear almost no similarity to anything I recognize as Science Fiction. Same applies to movies. And TV.

When it comes to “flying” spaceships, one thing you almost never see in what I would class as “real science fiction” is the equivalent of a pilot flying an airplane. You have sentient AIs, non-sentient machines, organic gestalts, drug-enhanced or psionic individuals and massive teams but, other than for the space equivalent of sports cars or taxis you don’t have one guy heaving on a joystick.

If EVE delegates control of ships to something more capable than the human player at the keyboard that seems eminently reasonable to me. Maybe one day I’ll download the trial and see for myself.

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By: HarbingerZero https://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/2014/03/why-i-didnt-play-eve-at-launch/#comment-26902 Fri, 07 Mar 2014 18:29:41 +0000 http://randomwaypoint.fajs.de/?p=3281#comment-26902 EVE Online is one of the great mysteries of the MMO world.

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